The Talk Show

Live From WWDC 2019 With Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak

Recorded in front of a live audience at The California Theater in San Jose on Tuesday, 4 June 2019, John Gruber is joined by Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak to discuss the news from WWDC 2019: the new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR, MacOS 10.15 Catalina, iOS 13, iPadOS, SwiftUI and Catalyst, and more.


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Audio editing by Caleb Sexton. Cover photo by John Siracusa.