The English-Likeness Monster

So let’s revisit the AppleScript bug I wrote about two weeks ago, where System Events returns the wrong folder in response to a path to command asking for a special folder in the user domain.

Here’s the bug in a nutshell:

set p1 to path to application support folder from user domain
-- alias "Tycho HD:Users:gruber:Library:Application Support:"

tell application "Finder"
    set p2 to path to application support folder from user domain
    -- alias "Tycho HD:Users:gruber:Library:Application Support:"
end tell

tell application "System Events"
    set p3 to path to application support folder from user domain
    -- alias "Tycho HD:Library:Application Support:"
end tell

I.e. within a System Events tell block, a path to <some magic folder name> from user domain command will return folders from the local domain (the root-level Library folder) instead.

Thanks to dozens of helpful emails from various readers (and I thank each of you), it’s clear why this is happening: it’s a good old-fashioned scripting dictionary terminology conflict.

The StandardAdditions OSAX defines a “path to” command, which takes an optional “from” parameter. When you use the from parameter, you must choose from the following enumerated constants:

  • system domain
  • local domain
  • network domain
  • user domain
  • Classic domain

So, StandardAdditions defines “user domain” as a constant, with the four-character Apple Event code ‘fldu’.

The problem is that System Events also defines “user domain”, not as a constant, but rather as a property of the System Events application itself. It uses the same four-character Apple Event code, ‘fldu’.

Bear with me here, because we need a little background on how AppleScript works to truly fathom just how pernicious this particular bug is.

Compiled AppleScripts are not stored as AppleScript source code; instead, as the name of the format implies, they are stored in a compiled format, which format consists of Apple Event codes. Scripting dictionaries are the go-between; they map the English-like syntax of AppleScript to the underlying Apple events:

AppleScript source code    scripting dictionaries    Apple events

The translation works both ways. You type AppleScript syntax, then when you compile the script, it gets translated to Apple events. When you open a saved script, AppleScript uses the dictionaries to translate the compiled Apple events back into English-like AppleScript source code.

Our problem above is that when we use the StandardAdditions path to command, we also want to use the StandardAdditions user domain enumeration. However, when we put this statement in a System Events tell block, System Events’s dictionary gets the first crack at the terms, and because it has its own definition of user domain, that’s the one AppleScript uses. Because it uses the same AppleScript syntax and the same underlying Apple Event code, there is no indication to you, the programmer, that AppleScript has resolved user domain to something other than StandardAdditions’ user domain.

So it compiles successfully, and when it decompiles back into AppleScript source code, the syntax looks correct. But when it executes, it returns the wrong result.


Daniel Jalkut was the first of several readers to suggest the following workaround:

A stupid, but functional workaround would be to define your own “user domain” key outside the scope of the System Events tell. For instance, if you were going to be doing a bunch of this stuff in a script, you could do something like this:

set myUserDomain to user domain

tell application "System Events"
   path to application support from myUserDomain
end tell

The idea here is that myUserDomain gives you a reference to StandardAdditions’ user domain enumeration from within the context of a System Events tell block.

Another workaround suggested by several readers is to use System Events’s own means of getting references to special folders, rather than StandardAdditions’ path to command. For example, to get a reference to the Fonts folder in the user domain:

tell application "System Events"
    set ff to fonts folder of user domain
end tell

But that doesn’t return a path or an alias; instead it returns a System Events folder object. System Events’ folder class contains properties for the path (HFS-style) and POSIX path, so if what you want is the path (rather than a folder object), you can say something like this:

tell application "System Events"
    set ff to fonts folder of user domain
    set posix_path to POSIX path of ff
    set hfs_path to path of ff
end tell

posix_path will be something like “/Users/gruber/Library/Fonts”, and hfs_path will be something like “Tycho HD:Users:gruber:Library:Fonts:”.

So, to get the HFS-style path, you can roll this up into a single line:

tell application "System Events"
    set ff1 to path of fonts folder of user domain
end tell

Compare and contrast to the StandardAdditions syntax:

set ff2 to path to fonts folder from user domain

paying particular regard to “path of” vs. “path to” and “of user domain” versus “from user domain”.

Interpolation on the Failed Experiment That Is AppleScript’s English-Like Syntax

This is AppleScript at its worst. It was a grand and noble idea to create an English-like programming language, one that would seem approachable and unintimidating to the common user. But in this regard, AppleScript has proven to be a miserable and utter failure.

In English, these two statements ought to be considered synonymous:

path of fonts folder of user domain
path to fonts folder from user domain

But in AppleScript, they are not, and rather are brittlely dependent on the current context. In the global scope, the StandardAdditions OSAX wants “path to” and “from user domain”; in a System Events tell block, System Events wants “path of” and “of user domain”.

The idea was, and I suppose still is, that AppleScript’s English-like facade frees you from worrying about computer-science-y jargon like classes and objects and properties and commands, and allows you to just say what you mean and have it just work.

But saying what you mean, in English, almost never “just works” and compiles successfully as AppleScript, and so to be productive you still have to understand all of the ways that AppleScript actually works. But this is difficult, because the language syntax is optimized for English-likeness, rather than being optimized for making it clear just what the fuck is actually going on.

This is why Python and JavaScript, two other scripting language of roughly the same vintage as AppleScript, are not only better languages than AppleScript, but are easier than AppleScript, even though neither is very English-like at all. Python and JavaScript’s syntaxes are much more abstract than AppleScript’s, but they are also more obvious. (Python, in particular, celebrates obviousness.)

In this regard, AppleScript syntax styling in your chosen script editor can provide essential clues. Here’s what the above examples look like on my machine in Script Debugger:

AppleScript syntax styling example.

The gray words are language keywords, meaning they are part of the AppleScript programming language; the blue words are application keywords, meaning they are defined by a scripting dictionary.1

Note that in the first statement, inside the System Events tell block, the “of” in “path of” is a language keyword. But in the second statement, the “to” in “path to” is an application keyword. Even more confusing is that “path to” is preceded by a “to”, which “tois a language keyword. So you’ve got “to path to”, and one of the to’s is a language keyword, and the other is an application keyword.

How is this possible? Because the second “to” is not a standalone keyword; it’s part of StandardAdditions’ “path to” command, which is a single token that consists of multiple space-separated words. In most languages, this command would have been called something like “pathTo” or “path_to”; but in AppleScript, intra-token spaces are considered a good thing, on the grounds that they greatly increase the resemblence to English. In practice, however, I believe intra-token spaces are one of the most common underlying causes of AppleScript confusion.

Similarly, note that with the StandardAdditions path to syntax, the “from” in “from user domain” is an application keyword; it’s the name of a parameter defined by the path to command. Whereas in the System Events syntax, it’s just another chained “of” to access a property of an object.

These prepositional differences are even more exasperating when you consider that “of” and “in” are interchangeable in AppleScript. If you can say either of these to mean the same thing within a System Events tell block:

path of fonts folder of user domain
path in fonts folder in user domain

and you can say this using StandardAdditions:

path to fonts folder from user domain

then it seems rather natural to assume that the “to” and “from” might be interchangeable with other prepositions as well. But you can’t, and if you’re not aware that StandardAdditions’s “path to” is a single token of two words, it seems rather arbitrary, if not downright random, which prepositions are allowed where.

(The way AppleScript lets you throw in superfluous the’s and a’s — “get the path of the fonts folder” means the same thing as “get path of fonts folder”, and in fact means the same thing as “get the the the path of the the the fonts folder” — makes it seems as though AppleScript just doesn’t care about “little words”, which is true in a handful of cases, but completely untrue in others.)

In a “normal” programming language, the equivalent to “path to fonts folder from user domain” might be something like:

path_to("fonts folder", "user domain")

And the equivalent to “path of fonts folder of user domain” might be:


The point being that in most languages, these two calls don’t look at all similar. Which is a good thing, because they aren’t at all similar: one is a global command taking two parameters, the other is a property of a property of an object. AppleScript’s slavish devotion to English-likeness, on the other hand, gives us two very different syntax constructs that read, to humans, as though they’re semantically similar.

One way to disambiguate the two syntaxes in these examples would be to use AppleScript’s 's (apostrophe-s) “possessive” operator instead of the “of” keyword. The two statements in the following example are more or less equivalent:

tell application "System Events"
    set ff1 to path of fonts folder of user domain
    set ff2 to user domain's fonts folder's path
end tell

Matt Neuburg, in his wonderful AppleScript: The Definitive Guide, devotes an entire section to what he calls “The ‘English-likeness’ Monster” (from which section I’ve taken the title of this essay). He establishes numerous problems caused by AppleScript’s attempts to resemble English, and concludes by pointing out that even simple variable assignment in AppleScript suffers:

Then there is the fact that English is verbose. In most computer languages, you would make a variable x take on the value 4 by saying something like this:

x = 4

In AppleScript, you must say something like one of these:

copy 4 to x
set x to 4

Doubtless not everyone would agree, but I find such expressions tedious to write and hard to read. In my experience, the human mind and eye are very good at parsing simple symbol-based equations and quasi-mathematical expressions, and I can’t help feeling that AppleScript would be much faster to write and easier to read at a glance if it expressed itself in even a slightly more abstract notational style.

Back to the Workarounds

So, back to this:

tell application "System Events"
    set ff1 to path of fonts folder of user domain
end tell

You might be tempted to say, “Well, there you go — when you’re inside a System Events tell block, don’t use the StandardAdditions path to command, use System Events’ own means of accessing special folders instead.”

The problem here is that System Events doesn’t know about as many special folders as does StandardAdditions. Or, more specifically, the System Events dictionary doesn’t define names for as many special folders as does the StandardAdditions dictionary.

And, unfortunately, one of the folders System Events doesn’t know about is the one we’re interested in, the Application Support folder. Changing the above reference to the Fonts folder to:

tell application "System Events"
    set appsup to path of application support folder of user domain
end tell

won’t even compile. As of Mac OS X 10.4.2, here is the full list of special folder properties known to System Events user domain object:

  • applications folder
  • desktop pictures folder
  • Folder Action scripts folder
  • fonts folder
  • preferences folder
  • scripting additions folder
  • scripts folder
  • speakable items folder
  • utilities folder
  • desktop folder
  • documents folder
  • favorites folder
  • home folder
  • movies folder
  • music folder
  • pictures folder
  • public folder
  • sites folder
  • temporary items folder2

StandardAdditions’ dictionary defines several dozen more,3 but even it doesn’t include every special Mac OS folder.

The full list, in the form of four-character codes, is available in Apple’s Carbon developer documentation. The folder names defined in System Events’ scripting dictionary are just wrappers around these four-character codes, so, to address one of the folders that the dictionary doesn’t define, you can simply use the raw code:

tell application "System Events"
    set appsup to path of folder id "asup" of user domain
end tell

Or, using the 's operator:

tell application "System Events"
    set appsup to user domain's folder id "asup"'s path
end tell

(You can see here why the 's operator isn’t popular.)

So, at last, we’ve arrived at a complete workaround, but it requires (a) foreknowledge of the underlying user domain terminology conflict; and (b) looking up the Application Support folder’s four-character code in the Carbon developer documention.

Conclusion and Advice

My advice is not to use scripting addition commands from within application tell blocks if you can avoid it. Use tell blocks only to group statements directly related to the app that is the target of the tell block. You’re better off with multiple tell blocks for the same app interspersed with calls to scripting addition commands than a single tell block that contains calls to scripting additions.

The blame for my complaint here probably lies mostly with System Events, because its dictionary should not define a user domain object that conflicts with StandardAdditions’ user domain enumeration in such a way that it doesn’t produce a compile- or run-time error. Or, perhaps the blame lies mostly with the AppleScript compiler for allowing this terminology conflict to proceed without error.

But I’ll also point an accusatory finger in the direction of scripting additions in general. The problem with scripting additions is that they pollute the global namespace with their dictionary syntax. An application can define whatever crazy terms it wants and it won’t adversely affect the rest of your script, because an app’s terms are only available within tell blocks targeting that app. (Or within using terms from application blocks.)

AppleScript is actually a tiny language, with extraordinarily few keywords, but the standard scripting additions turn it into a bigger language, ripe for terminology conflicts.

  1. “Application keywords” also include terms defined by scripting additions, but the point is, these are terms defined by dictionaries, not the AppleScript language itself.↩︎

  2. Interesting fact: You can ask for the “temporary items folder” from the user domain using either StandardAdditions or System Events, and you’ll get the path to “~/Library/Caches/TemporaryItems” instead of a sub-folder within “/private/tmp” or “private/var/tmp” (which is where temporary items folder resolves to if you don’t tack on the user domain part).↩︎

  3. See p. 341 of Neuburg’s AppleScript: The Definitive Guide for a full listing.↩︎