CLARKE: Well, I don’t think it’s a fierce debate. I think the
Justice Department and the FBI are on their own here. You know,
the secretary of defense has said how important encryption is
when asked about this case. The National Security Agency
director and three past National Security Agency directors, a
former CIA director, a former Homeland Security secretary have
all said that they’re much more sympathetic with Apple in this
case. You really have to understand that the FBI director is
exaggerating the need for this and is trying to build it up as
an emotional case, organizing the families of the victims and
all of that. And it’s Jim Comey and the attorney general is
letting him get away with it.
GREENE: So if you were still inside the government right now as a
counterterrorism official, could you have seen yourself being more
sympathetic with the FBI in doing everything for you that it can
to crack this case?
CLARKE: No, David. If I were in the job now, I would have simply
told the FBI to call Fort Meade, the headquarters of the National
Security Agency, and NSA would have solved this problem for them.
They’re not as interested in solving the problem as they are in
getting a legal precedent.