By John Gruber
The leading Trust Center Platform for friction-free security reviews.
David Barnard:
On the podcast I talk with John about the fascinating 40-year history of Apple’s developer relations, how almost going bankrupt in the 1990s shaped today’s control-focused approach, and why we might need an “App Store 3.0” reset.
Yet another fun appearance on a podcast. There’s a good transcript too, if you’re more of a reader than a listener.
★ Wednesday, 23 July 2025